Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:37:14 -0400 From: Laura Critzer lcritzer@wattscreativestudios.com Hi Kathy, While doing research on Lollie and Julies murder I stumbled upon your website and forum. I was wondering if you might post my email address for people to contact me for a podcast. I work for Watts Creative Studios & the podcast is called Route 29 Stalker and for many people here in central Virginia, all these murders are still unsettling for us. We have 4 episodes out currently on Alicia Showalter Reynolds and when those wrap up we will be gearing towards the Myers of Julie and your friend Lollie. We are looking for friends and family member that want to talk about who these women were. not what they are remembered by across the country. We at Watts Creative Studios want to bring awareness to the cases because we believe there are still leads out there, or parts of investigations that might not be done ( speculation but we want to put focus back on these crimes) Please feel free to listen to our podcast to know that we are legitimately trying to produce this. I'm sure you have been asked by numerous people to interview etc, but for us, being about an hour and a half away, we still live it. It's still talked about in that area. People remember Lollie and Julie. Thanks, Laura
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:57:03 EDT From: BVB426 at aol Subject: Friend/Relative of Lollie LOLLIE AND I GREW UP TOGETHER IN GROSSE POINTE FARMS, MICHIGAN. WE LIVED FIVE MINUTES FROM EACH OTHER AND WERE ONLY ONE MONTH APART IN AGE. HER MOTHER LAURA FORD AND MY MOM ANNE FORD ARE STILL BEST FRIENDS TO THIS DAY. OUR FAMILIES WERE SO CLOSE GROWING UP THAT SHE CALLED MY MOM "AUNT ANNE" AND I CALLED HER MOM "AUNT LAURA". LOLLIE AND I WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL, SPENT SUMMERS TOGETHER AT A CAMP IN THE NORTH CAROLINA MOUNTAINS, SPENT TIME ON OUR PARENTS BOATS, WE WERE TOGETHER ALL THE TIME. INSEPARABLE, THE BOPSY TWINS THEY WOULD CALL US WHEN WE WERE 13 MY MOM MARRIED LOLLIE'S UNCLE (EMORY FORD). LOLLIE AND I LAUGHED ABOUT HOW WE HAD NOW REALLY BECOME RELATED. I RECENTLY LOOKED AT THE PICTURES FROM THE WEDDING AND MY MOM AND I JUST LAUGHED. LOLLIE AND I WERE SO YOUNG LOOKING. YOU COULD TELL JUST LOOKING AT OUR SMILES WERE WERE SO HAPPY TO FINALLY BE RELATED. COUSINS WE LAUGHED. I WAS LIVING IN FLORIDA AT THE TIME OF LOLLIE'S DEATH AND WAS UNABLE TO GO HOME FOR THE FUNERAL. I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO SAY MY GOODBYES. THIS APRIL HER UNCLE EMORY (MY STEPFATHER) PASSED AWAY. I WAS HOME FOR THE FUNERAL. I FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO SAY GOODBYE. EMORY IS BURIED RIGHT NEXT TO LOLLIE. AFTER PAYING MY RESPECTS TO EMORY, I TOOK A SINGLE WHITE ROSE, WALKED OVER TO LOLLIE'S GRAVE, CLEANED OFF THE LEAVES THAT HAD FALLEN AND LAID IT ON HER HEAD STONE. MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD WITH LOLLIE FLASHED THROUGH MY MIND. LAUGHING WITH HER, RIDING BIKES, SWIMMING IN HER POOL, THE TRIP TO ARIZONA, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, AND ALL THE TROUBLE WE USED TO GET INTO (SHHHH, OUR MOMS STILL DON'T KNOW) HA, HA, HA.. I CRIED AND LAUGHED AND THEN CRIED SOME MORE. IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MOMENT TO TALK TO MY FRIEND, TO PAY HER THE RESPECT THAT SHE DESERVED. I WALKED OVER TO AUNT LAURA AND GAVE HER THE BIGGEST HUG AND WE BOTH STARTED TO CRY. I TOLD AUNT LAURA THAT LOLLIE WOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. SHE HAS THE MOST WONDERFUL FRIENDS THAT CARE SO MUCH FOR HER. I KNOW IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I HAVE READ ALL OF YOUR ENTRIES. ON BEHALF OF MYSELF (BROOKE) AND OUR FAMILES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND FOR LOVING LOLLIE.
From: Jennifer Vancory jenvan at verizon.net Date: Oct 1, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: Friends of Lollie & Julie Dear Kathy, I'm writing a book that will include a section regarding the murders of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams. During the course of researching, I've read many of the postings on your web site. I would appreciate being contacted by friends of Lollie and Julie who would like to share accounts of their friendship and times spent with either of them. Like many, I've always been struck by the savagery of the crime but even more so, by the genuine goodwill and affection that these two young women inspired in others. They both seemed to be remarkable people and I want to be able to provide accurate portrayals of both. Please forward or post my contact information. Any help that you could provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jennifer VanCory
Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:46:29 -0400 From: James Close jamesclose at hotmail.com Subject: update from Washington Post May 6th, 2003- Shenandoah murders Counts dropped: Prosecutors agreed yesterday to drop two of four murder counts against a Maryland man accused of killing two women at a secluded campsite in Shenandoah National Park because of their sex and sexual orientation. Prosecutors said the decision will have no effect on the case against Darrell D. Rice, 35, of Columbia, who faces two charges of capital murder in the deaths of Julianne M. Williams and Laura S. "Lollie" Winans. The women were reported missing after they entered the park in May 1996. Their bodies were found a week later. Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas J. Bondurant Jr. said the government intends to argue that "part of Rice's intent and motivation" was to single out the women because of their gender and sexual orientation. Prosecutors have quoted Rice as saying he selected women to intimidate and assault because "they are more vulnerable than men" and that Winans and Williams "deserved to die because they were lesbian whores." Bondurant said the "hate crime enhancements" that had been included in the indictment were unnecessary because the case is now a death penalty case, and "you can't punish anybody more than death."
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Kristin Fairbanks Luther kwfairbanks@yahoo.com Subject: Thank God Thank God for today's indictment. I was at Marlboro College in Vermont with Lollie, and although I never knew her well, she was a tremendous and wonderful life force in that tiny community. Her exuberant presence was strengthening to those around her. I wish her family and friends peace. Kristin Fairbanks Luther
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:56:22 -0500 From: Tim Vick tvick@carleton.edu Subject: Tragedy on the A.T. page Hi Kathy, I work in the Geology Department at Carleton College, so I knew Julie Williams while she was in college. I just wanted to let you know that we here in the Geo Dept still think about Julie often and check your web page periodically to see if there are any new developments in the case. I always sort of hope against hope that there has been some kind of resolution, although there is no way to resolve it in a way that would be really satisfying (undoing the violence against two wonderful people). Thanks for maintaining the web site, it is still important to a lot of people. Tim Vick *************************************** Timothy D. Vick Geology Department Carleton College Northfield, Minnesota 55057
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:59:07 -0700 From: Becky Marsick rjm11@po.cwru.edu Subject: questions about the case I was wondering if there is any new information about the investigation? In May of 2000 I was in Shenandoah National Park backpacking by myself (I have gone there many times), and stopped at the ranger station to ask if there had been any recent problems, and if there was anything I needed to be concerned about. The ranger mentioned the murders (I had read about them at the time), and I shared a story with her..... I told her that in 1993 I was backpacking with my sister in Shenandoah, and we hiked into Skyland on our fourth night (we were headed south). It was raining and we were sitting outside the lodge/restaurant making our dinner when a man who appeared to work at Skyland restaurant came out and started talking to us. He asked us general questions that we avoided answering such as which way we were headed on the trail, and how far we planned to go that night..... then he asked us how long we had been together. We replied that we were sisters, and he seemed surprised and quickly lost interest and went back inside. It bothered us for a number a reasons, mainly because he was creepy, and it was odd that he came out in the rain to talk to us. It was also unusual that he was asking about our relationship. As I told this all to the ranger last spring, she became very interested, and asked if I would mind sticking around for a few hours while they called the person who was in charge of the investigation, so he could come and get my statement. Of course I was happy to wait. As I waited for him to arrive, the ranger told me that they still had 2 rangers working full time on the case, and that they were very close to making an arrest. They also told me that "the danger was no longer present". I don't know if the information I provided was at all useful, but I thought I would post it here just in case it triggers anything for anybody. Although I never had the opportunity to meet Julie or Lollie, I have mourned their deaths in many ways; and feel I have gotten to know them through the beautiful comments that are provided on this site and in the countless articles I have read about this tragedy. Becky
From: Presto1961@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:10:54 EDT Subject: Lollie Winans My daughter, who was a close friend of Lollie Winans in Vermont, just told me about this website. I am grateful that you are keeping this site going. I remember when I was in Vermont visiting my daughter, I filmed a very short video of Lollie and Taj (her dog). I would like to find out if her mom/dad would like a copy. Do you have contact with them? If so, please give my e mail address and my message about the video. I remember how honest and how caring Lollie was. My daughter was in school and Lollie was her roommate for a while. Lollie was behind a few dollars for the rent. She not only told my daughter how she would pay it off but made sure that we, the parents, knew that she would get the rent paid. Her upfront responsible manner was appreciated. Lollie had stayed with my daughter in the hospital's ER when my daughter was alone in Montpelier----- even when Lollie was sick herself. I told Lollie that she could consider the rent bill paid after what she had done for my daughter. I was amazed at her honesty and her kind and caring manner to be there for my daughter until I could fly to Vt.
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 14:43:01 -0400 From: Lyrica L. Kerstein stlablu@aol.com Subject: Remembering Lollie and Julie I have stopped into your site several times in the past year or so. It has served as a place of comfort, as I still grieve Lollie's death daily. I met Lollie in Woodbury, Vermont in 1991, and we shared many great moments together in the years that followed, riding up to the quarry in her VW van to go skinny dipping, meeting for Ben & Jerry's in Montpelier, dancing our butts off to Uproot and D'Moja, just plain laughing, drinking good beers, being roomates (for a little while), her dog Taj, my dog Lucy, Reggae fest, hiking up Hunger Mountain, an unforgetable road trip to Maine. She was a true sister to me, and a real friend. The happiest I ever heard her was over the phone when she told me about Julie. The last time I heard from her was a message on my answering machine, saying that she was going camping, and she would see me when she got back. We were going to be living in the same town again and it was gonna be a great summer. I miss my friendship with Lollie every day. I still see her in my dreams. I can still hear her voice and her laugh. This tragedy is something I have had a very hard time coming to terms with and I doubt I ever will. I still pray that we will find an answer about what happened. Thanks for keeping up this website. It is good to see that others still remember.
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:30:31 -0500 From: Barbara J. Nordin nordin@cstone.net Subject: Thoughts about the tragic events Dear Kathy, I'm the writer in Charlottesville, VA, who wrote at length about the murders in the summer of 1998. I have a new e-mail address (nordin@cstone.net), which I'd like visitors to your site to be aware of in case they ever want to contact me. I intend to write about the case again at some point, and appreciate all the help I got before from your readers. Best wishes, Barbara Nordin
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:23:51 -0800 From: Beth Lambert beth@inletkeeper.org Hi Kathy, I just wanted to thank you for continuing to maintain this page. Julie was a good friend of mine in college and I still think of her often. Beth Lambert
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:26:34 -0400 From: Bruce Carney carney unitedpowercorp.com Subject: Julie Williams & Lollie Winans My cousin and I were hiking this weekend and remembering a strange situation a few years ago. We were at a campsite sitting by the fire and saw a bearded fellow coming down the trail wearing nothing but a backpack, boots, and hat. He ducked behind a tree and put some shorts on, then talked to us for a little while. He said he didn't wear shorts because of the chafing. I can't remember his name, but he was definitely a different bird. He said he was hiking the whole trail and living on a handful of nuts each day. Anyway, one of the things he mentioned was that he crossed paths with a couple of women at a shelter along the trail and was disgusted that they weren't interested in men. I guess he felt rejected. This may have nothing at all to do with Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, but its frightening to think that similar mentalities are out there and could be very dangerous. We always hike and camp far away from roads so there can't be easy access, but there's still a fair amount of weirdos on the appalachian trial along with more normal folks. It's a pity that you can escape the cities and regular environments but you can't escape narrow-minded people.
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:45:38 -0800 From: Atys atys@usa.net Subject: Lollie and Julianne Don't remember ever seeing your site before, came across it by accident looking for something totally unrelated. You asked what others felt about this terrible incident...this is what I felt when it happened. Extreme Censorship Green, the trees of woodland made. Cloud of morning made them fade. Pink, the hue of eoan sky. Beauty the moments as they tick by. Nature arrayed in her richest dress painted gently by sorceress. Birds, a song of life did sing. Their love to wood did bring. Moss gathered as seat so soft, while skies of blue hung aloft. In peace and love my sisters did walk, ignoring call of the clock. Twine nuptial's garland with wreath of joy, their friendship, happiness did deploy. Utopia, to them did call of Vermont their heart enthrall. Killed for their thoughts were they, evil dawning on that day! Their love, not accepted by all. Some believe vetitive they had, in keeping with the latest fad! They kill those who don't agree. Oh woe is life, for you and me! For love, Lollie and Julianne did die. With them, we bid security good-by. Bracken the paths of forest floor, call in peace never more. For if my dreams displease. Brethren, the fanatic will seize.
(Note: I assume the author of this email is somehow associated with Brown U. and chose, for some reason, to use the above pseudonym from which to send the message. A reply to that address returned a bounced message. --KB)
I was just becoming friends with Julie up in Vt. not long before these
deaths occured. I called her to see if she could meet for lunch and
found it odd when she never returned my call. Then one night I got a
terrible unforgettable call with the news of her and Lollie's death.
These years later I still think of them often. I can no longer try to
understand what happened, only to try and be thankful for the gift of
friendship that I had recieved, if only for a short time.
Thank you for keeping this page going, it is helpful to see there are
many others who still think of Julie and Lollie. I can only hope that
someday the answers to many questions will come.
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:11:43 -0400
From: "James E. Close" jeclose@gw.dec.state.ny.us
Subject: POST ON "THOUGHTS ABOUT THE TRAGIC EVENTS"
Has it occurred to anyone besides me that Cary Stayner, the alleged
murderer of three women in Yosemite earlier this year, should be a prime
suspect in these murders? Where was he in May, 1996?
NOTE: Yes, I think the possibility occurred to many people. I believe it was mentioned in a news story
that one of the DC TV stations did. Police out in CA are certainly trying to put together an accurate
calkendar of his whereabouts no doubt going back as far as possible. I would think it's quite possible
they could solve other cases out in California, but suspect it's highly unlikely that he was back east,
at least from what I have read about him. --Kathy
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:32:37 -0700
From: Sarah Jetton ssjetton@hotmail.com
Subject: Happy Birthday Julie
Hi Kathy,
I lived with Julie in Big Bend National Park in the spring of 1996. We made a connection from
the very first day we met, and shared many great times in those few months. One of the things
i remember vividly about her was our tradition of dancing in the middle of the Texas desert to
Galilao by the Indigo Girls. We both loved that song and loved to dance. When we both went
our separate ways from Big Bend, she called me up and shared how she had been driving out of
the park blasting that song in memory of our good times together. Halfway out of the park she
realized that the back window of her car was open and all her tapes and cds were spread all
over the road. She said she just had to laugh at all the big RVs that probably drove over her
precious music collection. I still smile when i think of her laughing/crying in the desert
over her open window. Julie also is the only person to ever have written in a journal of
mine, and i would love to share some of her poetry. I think of her often, and was wanting to
see if anything was on the case recently. Thank you for keeping up this page. I also want to
wish Julie a happy birthday up in the beautiful place she and lollie are in. I still have a
connection with her, since i didn't even remember that today is her birthday. I miss her and
will never forget her. My heart is forever saddend by the loss of Julie and Lollie, and i plan
to keep her passion for geology alive in my teachings to elementary students. Please write me
with any information you might have, or a place I could send her poems to her parents. I
think it might be a nice birthday present for them.
Sarah Jetton
ssjetton@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:08:53 -0500 (EST)
From: BRIDGETT RYAN BR420@webtv.net
Subject: unsolved deaths
Kathy,
I don't really know too mch about the deaths of these two women. I was
just looking through some other sites and somehow came across into this.
On Dec. 6th 1996 a friend of mine went to Wal-Mart in Clarksville, TN
and was never seen again. She too was a lesbian and was said to have
been buried in a nearby creek or river. Although it as been almost
three years ago I still think about her and the whole situatuion
everyday. How can someone take another persons life like that? I'm
sure that these two women were just out trying to enjoy eachother and a
little bit of nature. Is it not even safe to try to enjoy your life
just because someone else isn't having a good life of there own. If
their life stinks so bad that they have to kill someone, let me suggest
to them- Think about what it would be like if someone killed the most
important person in their life. It doesn't matter anyway, the killers
are going to hell for the rest of their eternal life anyway so I hope
they like being in hell!!! In closing I would like their families and
friends to know that they are in my thoughts and prayers. God Bless and
be safe.
A.Owens 4/9/99
If any one has any information about the death of SGT Laura E. Cecere
email @ BR420@webtv.net
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:47:47 EST
From: Kmaura@aol.com
Dear Kathy,
I am so happy to see that just because Julie's death has gone unsolved, people
have not forgotten her. I certainly have not. Julie was my very first school
friend. We met the first day of kindergarten at St. Peter's Catholic School
in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Even when we were five years old, Julie was about a
foot taller than I. She and I became the best of friends, until I moved away
to Florida. We kept in touch for years, then it became Christmas cards.
Julie was someone I always admired. She was so intelligent and creative.
What a gift her friendship was. I am now a high school social studies
teacher. On my desk is a photo of Julie- even though we drifted apart once in
college, I look at her photo and explain to my students, that one person can
indeed make a difference. Some of our most important friendships are those
that were cultivated as young children. What a beautiful world she made it
for family and friends. Please keep her family in your prayers, they are
remarkable people.
Thank you for posting your page.
Sincerely,
Keelin Hurley
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:08:44 -0500
From: "James E. Close" jeclose@gw.dec.state.ny.us
Subject: More thoughts...
I've been thinking a lot about this case since I first looked into it a
few months ago. I guess it brings out the "Columbo" in me. Maybe I
should have been a detective in real life, instead of something else.
In any case, one thing is indisputable (unless the perpetrator hiked
into the park): The suspect came into the Park by vehicle, and left by
vehicle. That being established, it follows that he/she stopped at an
entrance station, and paid the entrance fee. A park official,
therefore, saw this person. Now, knowing that thousands of people
probably entered the park over the weekend, it is highly unlikely that
the ranger on duty at the entrance station would have remembered
everyone who came in during that time frame. I would hope that, among
other things, they carefully debriefed the park people who were on duty
at the entrance stations to ascertain if they remembered, in particular,
any lone individuals (I think it would be safe to say that this was
committed by a lone individual). Perhaps hypnosis might help, even.
It is, indeed, an extreme long shot.
I am going to Shenandoah next week, and, in fact, will be in the
vicinity of the crime. I seem to be drawn to it. Why, I don't know.
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:24:44 -0500
From: reet444@aol.com
Hello,
I just read over the information on this web page and I must say I am
heart broken. I had heard about the slayings, but had not really read
about it to this detail. I am just shocked and heart broken. I am
heart broken for the two women who were killed. I am also heart broken
that their dog may have witnessed something so horrific. Ugh, it
saddens me. Why? I don't understand why this had to happen. Why are
there such crazy people out there killing such warm, innocent people?
To think what they went through. To think what their dog went through
being on its own for a week after witnessing something so terrible. It
all breaks my heart. Is it possible to write to the parents?
Thank you,
If you have a response you can respond to "reet444@aol.com"
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:09:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Susie Wimberly suzieqc1cr@yahoo.com
Kathy:
As a new resident (10/98) to the area very close to White Oak Canyon,
I am begging you, and all of the other good people who need to see
this murder solved: Please don't give up; don't give up on Lollie and
Julie; keep posting to this site and help to keep it alive. I, too,
ride my horse and hike in these mountains. I live here, just down the
road from Big Meadows. And, I worry....
VTY, SuzieQcqcr@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 10:35:39 +0000
From: Nexus nexus@twinoaks.org
I just read a story in a Charlottesville, Va. newspaper (C-Ville
Weekly). I'd heard something about the tragedy of Lollie and Julie's
murders, two summers ago, but this story gave names and faces to the
unfortunate victims.
I found it very emotional for me to read the details of their killings.
My heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of them both.
It must be extremely frustrating to all that their killer(s) weren't
found yet. It crossed my mind that there have been previously unsolved
crimes that had later been solved due the aide of psychics who worked
with investigators. I was thinking that this may be an avenue to
explore (especially if they work for no fee, or on a contingency
basis). The sceptic in me tells me that a good psychic must also be an
altruist, and not a capitalist.
Best of Luck and Best Wishes to All.
Sincerely,
Indigo Nightsky, Louisa, Virginia
Note: Story mentioned is by Barabara Nordin, whose message is below. --KB
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:28:30 +0100
From: Barbara bjn7s@virginia.edu
Subject: Recent stabbing of AT hiker
The latest case, in which an Austrian woman was stabbed while camping
overnight in a town near the AT (Waynesboro, VA), appears to have no
connection with the 1996 murders. The FBI has investigated and
concluded this guy wasn't involved.
The young woman is doing very well and has now continued her travels
through the U.S. I interviewed her Saturday night (I'm the journalist
in Charlottesville who wrote an extensive piece on the 1996 murders last
month; my post is below) and am working on a short piece about her.
Barbara Nordin
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 03:12:54 +0200
From: Marion hitz@teleweb.at
Subject: New A.T. stabbing
Hi Kathy,
I have created a website about unsolved murder cases from all over the
world.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6865/index.html
Your page about the A.T. murders was among the first I have linked - and
it is still one of the best.
Yesterday and today I have found two articles in the Whashington Post
about a new case that could be in connection with the 1996 murders.
Ironicly the new victim is from my country - Austria. It's a small
world.
Here are the articles and please keep your site running until this case
is solved.
Lots of greetings from Austria,
Robert
NOTE: See http://www.fred.net/kathy/whatsnew.html for links to articles.
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:09:49 +0000
From: Barbara bjn7s@virginia.edu
I'm a journalist in Charlottesville, VA (about 1.25 hrs from the general
area of the murders), and joined Julie's mother and others this past
Saturday for the second annual Take Back the Trails hike. I'm now
working on a cover story for the June 9 issue of the alternative weekly
I write for (C-Ville Weekly) and would appreciate hearing from anyone
who knew either woman and who would like to share any memories,
opinions, theories, etc., they have on the case. My number is (804)
296-1484, if you'd prefer to call instead of E-mail. Thanks very much.
Best wishes, Barbara Nordin
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 01:07:09 +0000
From: Julia Daly julia@iceage.umeqs.maine.edu
Subject: another anniversary
Hi Kathy -
Thanks for keeping this page going. I was a geology major with Julie
in college, and her death two years ago saddened me in the deepest way.
She remains in my thoughts, espcially in the time I spend outside hiking
or doing field work, and more so at this time of year. Like Laura, I'm
still checking here, hoping to find out there's been some progress.
Even though it's been two years, I have to keep hoping that we'll find
out more and that some of our questions can be answered. I know that
Julie and Lollie will be in many people's thoughts this weekend. Thanks
for contributing your time by keeping up this page.
Julia
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 22:23:45 -0400
From: "E.W. Adams" cnb00612@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
Subject: Thoughts on the murders
I am a former WV State Trooper who now teaches school. I've been
milling this case over in my mind and have wondered how close the murder
scene was from the nearest roadway or forest service road. I have a
theory that whoever murdered the girls came from a nearby road. Just
wondering how close the nearest road was. Let me know if you have an
idea of the distance.
E.W. Adams Disabled WVSP
Note: Skyline Drive is just a few 100 yards away. I believe there was
evidence to indicate that the murderers came from a
parking area along the Drive (and were not hikers hiking in the woods
with just packs). --KB
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 18:31:11 -0400
From: Laura Gibson kimberly@together.net
Subject: any new information
It's hard to check in with this page, because the further we get from
Julie and Lollie's murders almost 2 years ago, the fewer people write
in. Julie was a friend of mine from college, and she lives on in my
thoughts every day. I still struggle with not knowing the details, and I
find as the anniversary of her and Lollie's murder quickly approaches,
the thoughts and questions bombard my mind even more intensely. Please
post any new information you may have. I know there is probably nothing
new, but I felt a need to echo Jessica's thoughts. It's comforting to
know that Lollie is living on in the minds of her friends in the same
way Julie lives on in the stories my friends and I have to share about
her. Thank you again for continuing to post these notes. Laura Gibson
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 02:04:56 -0600
From: Jessica
Subject: Lollie Winnans
Hi Kathy,
I am wondering if there has been any new information on Julie and Lollie's
death. Lollie was a friend of mine at Unity College, and I know none of us
have forgotten her. It would just be so comforting to know that even now,
some one is still looking for the answers. Has the FBI released any more
information? Are there any more leads? There were rumors around school
that the girls were raped-- is this true? I would really like to know what
is going on in the investigation, or if there is even an ongoing
investigation.
I miss Lollie and the times we had together. She is still on my mind and
it is still hard to believe this happened. Any news you have would be of
great comfort.
Thank you again, for taking the time to make this web page. It was a great
comfort to me tonight, to know they are still missed and remembered.
Sincerely,
Jess
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:22:41 EST
From: Kebousquet Kebousquet@aol.com
Subject: Taj the Dog
Dear Kathy,
I heard about the murders of Lollie and Julie last summer from my dearest
friend, who is now married to a man once close to Lollie. The reason I'm
writing is two-fold, first I think people interested in this story would be
heartened to learn that Taj the Dog is doing wonderfully and living on a farm
with my friend and her family in New England. My friends tells me Taj is a
very special dog with an empathetic soul and knowing eyes. Just thought
readers on this site would appreciate to hear at least one piece of good news
concerning this horrific murder.
Also, I have not seen anything written on this page more recent than 1997. I
wonder what the current status is? It occurs to me that the person who
committed this crime might be familiar with your website, and quite possibly
have actually had the gaul to write to you, feigning sorrow. As a former
newspaper reporter, I can only say that it is mind-boggling how police
agencies botch murder investigations. I hope to God that isn't the case here.
Please, if you can, keep us up-to-date. Thanks again for providing a voice
for those who can't speak for themselves.
kebousquet@aol.com
Karen
March 25, 1998
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:36:12 -0400
From: Kevin Sellars C-Sellars@mail.dec.com
rangers warning single people about the dangers of hiking alone is stupid. that
would be like expecting police to stand on the sidewalks and warn people not to
step in the street because they may be hit by a car. we live in dangerous times
and if you are not prepared to defend your life at all times, someone will take
it. be careful out there, always carry a gun, and know how to use it.
kevin
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 07:25:43 -0500
From: Peg
Subject: (Lack of) Wanted Poster on A.T.
From mid July to early August I was on the Appalachian Trail and Blue Ridge
Parkway. Remembering a news clipping that I had seen in the Lesbian
Connection about the murder of another two women on the Trail, I was on the
lookout for both poster and/or warnings for my personal safety. I travelled
with my two dogs as companions. Rangers did ask at the entry points if I
was carrying weapons of any kind but didn't offer any suggestions or
warning for my personal safety.
At designated campgrounds I checked washrooms and shower areas for the
poster or information. I asked other campers if they were aware of either a
murder last year on the trail, or posters anywhere. The answer was always
negative.
At the Skyland information kiosk, my last point leaving the park, I found
the poster behind a door. Had I not been looking specifically for the
poster I would have never seen it.
I post this to you knowing that I should have taken my growing anger and
frustration to the rangers and literally reamed their asses for their
stupidity or lack of concern for hikers that are out on the trail this
year. However I was already close to tears with my frustration. Driving
into Washington, DC a few days later I momentarily thought of visiting FBI
headquarters but knew that I had accumulated two weeks of anger (at the
system and my own lack of action). Knowing that, I decided the best part of
my own valour was to not end up in jail for what I feared I might do with
my frustration in a face-to-face encounter.
HOwever I do have these question: Has anyone else encountered the lack of
poster? Optimistically the reason I couldn't find any was because people
had taken them to pass around?
Why are single women entering the park not given warning? Why are hikers
entering the park not asked if they were hiking the trail last year, given
the poster and asked to distribute it to other hikers on the trail? Given
that many hikers will hike different sections of the trail in separate
chunks, why is that poster not further south on the trail for those doing a
different section this year?
The answer to all the why's seems to be that women's lives don't count if
money/business as usual is at stake... which would be jeopardized if the
tourists stayed away until the murderer(s) were caught.
If you post this anywhere, or forward it, please delete my email. I am not
proud of being so cowardly that I didn't create a public scene while in the
park.
Peg
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:14:03 -0400
From: ELK STORMS (estorms@penn.com)
Subject: Let's get involved and stop these crimes...
I have just stumbled across this sight but I have a few comments anyway.
I have not yet read the details in full but I had heard about this
somewhere and had wondered what became of it. I am glad there are those
out there that do care enough to keep on top of these crimes... No matter
what or how long it takes...
I grew up in Pennsylvania. I have spent more time in the mountains then in
my own home. From the Susquehanna Valley, The Loyalsock Trail, World's End
state park, and now I make my home in the Kinsua Valley region....
I have walked the trails, camped out and also be stranded a few times in
many of the said areas... Usually alone. I have seen just as many strange
occurrences as I have met great people. These mountains are used for all
types of reasons.. and unfortunately some of these reasons are for crime.
I have become involved with a search for a Missing Person from my area. I
have been out there and I mean out there...... I can not believe the
things I have come across just within a 15 mile range of my own home...
Dumping, Vandalism, Poaching, and Illegal Substance Crops !!.
I am angered.. disgusted and a little ashamed...
Why did these things occur and where were we when it did ????
We must stay alert and get involved... If we want our environment to be
safe, we must make it that way...
Criminals come in all forms, shapes and colors.... Therefore if you see
something out of sorts..take a note, make a call...Get out there and make a
difference.. let it be known that we are not going to let horrible crimes
happen...
I want to know that our children at least can leave the city and be safe in
these mountains....
If you would like to hear more about me you can check out
my homepage.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:45:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: BunnyCAW@aol.com
Subject: Hiking, lesbians, and stuff in general
There are just a few things to address here, and I'll try not to
preach, but I feel driven to at least comment.
The idea that the killer in this case was a Boy Scout or Eagle Scout for
some reason is something that I'd like to take up with whomever bothered to
voice it so "matter-of-factly". While many scouts both Boy and Girl, as well
as Campfire, Explorer and other youth organizations use the trails in the
Shenandoah National Park and the AT, the immediate assumption that this
person was a Scout is nothing short of rash. There are MANY people, from all
walks of life, who travel these trails repeatedly! (As well as Rangers,
Forestry Service, volunteers to clean and repair trails, birdwatchers, etc.!)
As anyone who hikes knows, it is the person and not the "program" that makes
a good hiker and builds one who "knows the lay of the land". The killer,
quite simply, has a far greater statistical chance of being a non-Scout by a
LONG shot, considering the sheer number of people who make use of those
trails in any given year. Perhaps, you should examine your prejudices? I'm
not a Scout, nor do I defend them as guiltless angels. But I do think you
are jumping to conclusions. The especially sad thing here is that the
chances are real good that the killer (like many of his ilk) probably did
exactly what someone else mentioned... drove to a part of the trail where
hikers would be accessible and "took" them, possibly posing as a hiker, but
almost certainly using the car as a means of ingress and egress. Most
killers of the type who would be suspect in this case are remarkably mobile
and travel great distances or use vehicles to secret evidence, bodies, etc.
for good reason.
Concerning similar comments voiced by a number of different folks
concerning the possible lesbian connection... Again, examine your
prejudices. You do no know what happened out there. It is only your own
sensitivity about persection which is making you assume that it was someone
with a vendetta against lesbians. It could have just as easily been someone
far too thick headed to even conceive if/that they were lesbians, but
motivated, quite simply by a blood lust to kill and attracted to 2 women as
either "classic" targets, or victims which because of some similarity/link
with the killer's past "triggered" the murderous response. In many cases, a
physical trait, action, response to the killer, etc. will be what "sets them
off". (That is, if the testimony of the many killers themselves in jail or
already put to death is to be taken into consideration.) In any number of
cases of "organized killers", it is planned ahead of time and merely "bad
luck" for whomever he runs across when his plans are all ready to be played
out. It could, and probably does have no more meaning than that. You may
like to think that their death had some deeper meaning, but please realize
that often it is just the opposite... That many vicitims are not targeted
for some "reason" but just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong
time.
Concerning guns on the trail. I own a gun. I hike. I do not take my
gun hiking with me. I take "other" measures, however I don't like mixing the
two. I am not saying be a purist and "tough it out". Go protected, but
wisely. If you do not know how to use a gun, if you are not comfortable with
a gun, if you are afraid of guns, by all MEANS do NOT go out on the trail
with one. For those with the pat answer that you will have it taken away
from you and used on you I say bull. If you know your weapon, are not afraid
to use it, and are alert and responsive, then you will not be unarmed in most
cases. It is the folks (male and female alike) whom I am referring to who do
get disarmed and hurt. If you own a gun, LEARN HOW TO USE IT. Be
comfortable and unafraid of it. It is of no use to you if you don't know how
to use it or don't intend to use it. Since this is the case with many women,
I would reccommend other means of protection. But I would not urge you to
stick your head in the sand and say "not me", or "it couldn't happen here".
It can and does. The only way not to live in fear of it is to take up your
"arms", whatever they may be, and be prepared. I'm not saying that you will
never fall victim to anyone, but you will increase your chances of survival
and, if done right, show would-be attackers that you are not an "easy mark".
It is really sad that this all had to happen. Much sadder when coupled
with the panic and fear that it creates. Those creatures among us (I
hesitate to use the word humans or people) who can perform such deeds are few
in the overall scheme of things, and yet they hold a nation in an ironclad
grip of terror. Only when we join together like this to solve crimes, resist
bad influences, understand each other, support and love those even unlike
ourselves, and defy their oppression can we truely breathe easy...walk
tall... be free. I hope that each of you affected enough by this tragedy to
be here reading and talking about it instead of shrugging it off will break
free of your fear and refuse to let it keep you prisoner. The folks who
advocated self-defense have the right idea, if the wrong means. As do the
folks who wish to honor the memories of these two beautiful and unfortunate
women. Don't let this stop you from living your life as you want to live it!
Be smart, be strong, and be free! Don't let someone else take your world
away from you, or diminish its beauty with their foulness. But PLEASE take
care of yourself. Hike smart so that we can all see you on the trails
instead of in the newspapers.
Enough said...
It is late. I'm rambling.
Cathy
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:00:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Shestalker@aol.com
I have read the FBI agent's comment that these murders have similarities to
the Colonial Parkway murders in 1986, but I have been unable to find out what
similarities that would be other than the obvious. I have a suspect that has
possible connections to both the murders but my contact with the FBI and the
police has not been very useful. Does anyone have more info on the links
between those two sets of double murders?
Also, I would like to know if anyone sited in the parking lot or on the trail
on May 24th through 26th, a 5'11" black male, age 32, 190 lbs. If it was
during the day, he would have been accompanied by a black female, also age
32, 165-175 lbs and possibly an elderly female and a slightly built thirteen
year-old boy. He would have been driving a dark blue Honda Civic. If it was
in the evening, he would have been driving the same vehicle or an old white
Chevy pick-up truck. If anyone has see this man in the area on that weekend,
please contact me at my e-mail address.
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:59:20 -0400
From: Eleanor Rigby (erigby@shentel.net)
Subject: Suggestion
I've been camping in the park for 20 years. Did anyone contact the
telephone company to check the calls made from the pay phones at the
campgrounds, lodges and visitors centers? Everybody uses those phones to
let friends know they arrived safely or to tell them where their campsite
is if others are arriving later. I know from experience that after a few
days you can get bored, call a friend and invite them up for the day or
even camp overnight--again telling them where you're camped. Just a
thought.
My sister Jane, her grandson Steven and I were camping a couple of miles
from Skyland at Big Meadows that weekend and I was there again this
Memorial Weekend. Our thoughts are with Julie and Lollie's families.
e.r.
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:31:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Iceyday@aol.com
Subject: Still Unsolved.
Hello....
Although I did not know Julie & Lollie, this tragedy affects alot of us in
so many ways. I used to hike & camp same areas where this occured, what
really scares me is the fact that I had just camped there a week before this
occurence.
Me and a companion, and both of us females and both of us lesbians.
Errie similarities we had our dogs, although i am in Law enforcement and
have been officer for 11 yrs now, an I always carry my firearm. Not for
fear in woods but because of the crazy society we live in, when you are out
here among the criminals every day you would apt to carry weapon 24 hr s a
day 7 days a week.
I love the outdoors but by the same token this is an open invitation without
a front door lock and without a burglar alarm for some lunatics.
While I was camping like many other times, I always have that feeling that
someone could be watching me. When I was camping this time, I didnt see or
hear anything out of order.
It sickens me to wonder if this was a HATE crime, and the longer this goes
unsolved the harder this will be to be proven in a court of law.
I hope family has private investigators as well working on this.
I wish there was some kinda insight I could give you, I check this web sight
monthly, hoping you have a break through.
I find it really hard to believe that these 2 women let thier guard down, so
I almost wonder if they knew the suspect. Or did the suspect catch them
off guard? And wouldnt you think it would be more than one suspect? to over
power these to apparently strong women?
I pray for thier familys... But NEVER give up here in Md we had an unsolved
murder you may recall Jamie Griffith , it went unsolved for nearly 10 yrs but
finally caught suspects and charged them with murder and finally found his
body, But it was his family 's Private investigators whom discovered the
evidence and body.
Unfortunately I have to say police departments are over worked under
staffed and do not have time nor man power to work nonstop like familys
wish we were The only way to stay on top of all of it is to have it pursued
24 hr s a day 7 days a week.. Just when the case slows down, and the
investigation seems to hit a stand still, the killer or killers will feel
like they got away with it. Please keep going and never give up, this will
eventually be solved, and the killers will screw up, I'm sure it wasnt
thier first nor thier last killing. Keep the faith..I'm always looking in
corner of my eye when i camp now, but I pray women dont camp alone, before
or after the murder it wasnt safe.
Take care
always
Officer J.T. B.
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jaclinfarr@aol.com
on June 1, 1997, myself and one of my dearest friends left New York City to
spend a week in the Shenandoah Park, hiking and "getting away from it all".
Upon arriving in Harrisonburg, I stumbled across a front page article about
the horrible murders of Julie and Lollie last year. I came back and told my
friend. We were so horrified and saddened by their deaths. They seemed like
beautiful, loving, brave young women. Their murder haunted our entire week.
How sad it was to feel nervous every time we spotted strangers on the trail
ahead. How awful to have to carry mace while in the sanctuary of a national
park. And how wrong to have to feel afraid simply because you are two women
hiking alone. At one point, we even debated going home. Yet we both
realized that that is exactly what Julie and Lollie would have NOT have
wanted us to do. I am sure they would tell us all to continue to live and
share in the beauty of our national parks, to honor and enjoy these God given
gifts. And most importantly, to NOT LIVE IN FEAR. I hope and pray we will
not allow whomever did this to these young women to weild that power over us.
I know it has been over a year since their murders, but I truly hope the FBI
is still working to find the murderer(s). They deserve to be punished to the
full extent of the law. They deserve to never again see another tree or hear
a bird sing or gaze at a waterfall. I hope they find them. I will keep that
in my prayers and thoughts. I will keep hiking.
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 18:50:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: BSNWHO@aol.com
Just a personal opinion. I would probably look for an employee(i.e ranger) or
some- one who lives very close to the vacinity and/or who is a regular at that
park. They seemed pretty happy in there picture. therefore it doesn't appear
that they felt any threat from whomever took the picture. I think that it was a
hate crime, possible from someone who is an homophoebic. probable someone they
interacted with for a period of time during there camping triip. Maybe, the sick
individual had other ideas in reguards to a fantasy with 2 women and when it
didn't go the way he wanted hishate and anger took over. I bet this person is
normal in appearance, with an outwardly seemingly nice personality, but a bad
temper, and probably someone who is involved in the investigation in someway or
another, and he's probably good with animals.
NOTE: There is nothing to indicate who took the pictures of the two of them
together. In fact, if the killer had used the camera, it seems likely the
person would have removed it from the scene to prevent fingerprints from being
gleaned from it. -KB
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 22:57:59 -0400
From: Laura Gibson (kimberly@together.net)
Hi - my name is Laura Gibson and Julie was a friend of mine from
college. I check in with your page periodically - it's still my root to
what is going on (or not) and people's reactions to the tragedy. I just
wanted to make sure that the information that this last person sent in
and you posted had made it on to the fbi, because I know that for a
while after the murders last year, they didn't know this page was in
existence. I'm continually stunned at the poor communication that exists
in the world, and this page seems a really key way to get communication
going. Thank you so much for maintaining it - it means a lot to me to be
able to open it up on occasion and see that people haven't forgotten
what happened. It's especially hard right now, at this time of year -
Laura Gibson
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:29:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Speratt@aol.com
Subject: Recent killings
I recently returned to NY from NC, traveling along route I-81. As we entered VA
from NC, we stopped at a rest area in Ironto and discovered ourselves in the
midst of a crime scene. Someone had been murdered there during the week and
left to be discovered by travelers and workers. According to the Roanoke paper,
this is the 2nd murder at VA rest stops on I-81 in the recent past.
I wonder if the killer has moved from the footpaths of the AT to the
interstate which runs parallel to it?
Terry Sperato
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:56:42 +0000
From: NVS (smarkle@epix.net)
Subject: A CURIOUS BROWSER WHO LIVES NEAR APPALATIAN TRAIL IN PA
Hi! My name is Steve and I live in Mt. Holly Springs, Pa., one of the
small communities which are very close to the trail. Was just browsing
the law enforcement website where I ran into this site. I am
immediately reminded of a situation that occurred locally, among several
others, that have happened over the past few years. The first issue I'm
referring to is a duffle bag that was discovered in a trash dumpster in
Dillsburg, Pa. after someone observed a person placing it there. The
duffle bag or whatever was reported by police to have bloody rope,
rubber gloves, and other articles inside it! Although I believe this
was before the incident you are concentrating on, it could possibly tie
in as there are at least two other murders of women in this local in the
past two years, as well as a third woman from Tennessee who mysteriously
dissappeared in Carlisle last year. Additionally, there have been
frequent breakins to cabins in Cooke Township, near Laurel and Fuller
Lakes! If there is a serial murderer migrating via the trail, and
jumping off the trail into our communities in search of supplies or a
victim, I suppose this could be linked to whomever is doing all of
this! Perhaps it is the same killer, I don't know, but I was not sure
if anybody involved with your case had heard about any of these facts!
The three unsolved cases are Jane Doe, who was found dead in South
Middleton Township, I believe, off of Wiskey Springs Rd. Am not sure
if exact method of the murder was disclosed. The other incident which
remains unsolved is the Westfall case, in Silver Springs/Mechanicsburg
area. It was disclosed that she was stabbed or slashed or both, I'm not
certain, but a knife was the murder weapon!
I know it's not much to go on, but I was just reminded of these local
cases when I saw your page, and wanted to be sure that you were aware of
them! With two young daughters of my own to be concerned about, the
thought that perhaps a predator of women is using the trail to migrate
in conjunction with the roadways that transect it along the way! We
frequently see hikers walking through town, and it's quite unsetteling
to think that a serial murderer could be "hiking" down our streets!
Let's leave no stone unturned to bring whomever did this to justice! I
hope this is of some help to you if you are not already aware of them!
Kindest regards, Steve
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:01:23 +0000
From: willaims@cloudnet.com
Dear Kathy,
Julie Williams is my cousin. She was the nicest person I knew. She
never treated any one bad in her life. I can not belive any one would
want to do this to her and Lollie. I met Lollie once and she was the
same way as Julie. If you the latest info. about the case please write
back.
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 17:51:59 -0800
From: Maura White
I was searching law enforcement web sites and can across yours dedicated to
finding the murderers of the two hikers. It is a tragedy.
With efforts like yours, and those of the community, I expect the killer(s)
will be caught. I would put money on it that it is a serial killer and former
Boy Scout/Eagle Scout who is all grown up and believes in the National beliefs
of the Boy Scouts: no gays, no girls and no Godless.
An unfortunate belief.
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:23:35 -0800
From: (rubyrz1@shentel.net)
Subject: Weapons on the AT
Kathy
I was disturbed to read the note from the woman advising us all
to bring weapons on the Trail. If we read all the info you have so
faithfully linked to this page, we know Julie and Lollie were very
capable of taking care of themselves. I'm forced to think that whoever
committed the crime was able to control the scene, most likely, with a
gun!
Bringing a weapon into the woods just places a person into the
dangerous posibility of someone taking the gun and using it on THEM;
literally arming an otherwise unarmed assailant!!
We all can't walk around the trails with our weapons drawn,
waiting for a would be assailant to show up. Besides, it's illegal to
bring weapons into state parks.
Whoever killed Julie and Lollie wanted to kill. We ALL want the
murderer found. Guns in the woods won't do it. Write to the FBI
encouraging them to keep the case at the forefront of the investigations.
Get involved with the "Take Back The Trails" initiative. Speak out
against violence against women, all women, outdoors and anywhere.
Keep you gun home. So no one can take it away from you and maybe,
use it on me.
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:17:05 -0500 (EST)
From: WestbrookJ@aol.com
I have not throughly researched the infro on these horrible murders, but I
have some ideas concerning this case. The AT is often used by boyscouts to
obtain patches ect. and eagle scouts as well who are often older. I think the
police will find that the killer is a former eagle scout who has hiked this
trail many times. There was a posting concerning a law enforcment officer in
the area who had remembered a series of killings going back quite awhile. I
hope that this has been researched well. I would look at sex offenders who
have been in the boyscouts. I am sorry for the loss of these too women who
had such bright futures. But it is good to know that so many are working to
try and solve these murders. Jeanette Westbrook
[Note: While the murders did take place about 1/2 mile from the AT, there has
been no connection made to the AT with respect to the murders. The site was
much closer to Skyline Drive, and I think most assume the murderer(s) came and
left by car and were not hikers.]
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:19:28 -0500
From: Ken & Carol (brownjen@websense.net)
Thank you for the work you've done in assembling the info re the tragic
deaths of these two women.
I knew Julie personally through church in Burlington Vt. and had somehow
never thought to do a web search on her name. I appreciate your efforts.
I did wonder why there was a link from the Tragedy on the AT back to the
AT home page, but no link (or did I miss it?) from the AT page to the
Tragedy page.
Thanks again for keeping this info up to date.
best...
ken brown
NOTE: The page is now linked from the Virginia area of the A.T. page.
Also, Ken's note made me realize that I had incorrectly titled the tragedy
page. While the murders were in the general vicinity of the A.T. they
were not on the trail.
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:55:18 -0500
From: Susan Schroeder
Subject: Crazy People/Tough Woman On Trail
I am reading about more murders on the A.T., and; I have to say that I
would never travel on the trail without my weapon. I know there is a lot
of controversary about guns on the trail. But no one is going to stop me
from enjoying myself. Murderers beware, you will pay by having your heads
blown off. I think that if more murderers were aware that women have the
means to protect themselves, they would think twice before trying anything
on the A.T. Please note that I am married, we have our own engineering
company, I am involved with community volunteering. I stand out because I
think life is fragile and I am not afraid to protect myself. Please
ladies, I hope that you never allow yourself to be put in a situation where
you can be overtaken and if you do, please bring a weapon.
Love to you and especially Julie & Lonnie
"Two-step"
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:22:39 -0800
From: Liz Morrison
Dear Kathy,
Please visit www.tpcorp.com/takeback.
This is a trek dedicated to Lollie & Lollie.
We would be interested in your interest, feed back, etc.
This mission has impassioned many, myself included.
Thank you for this space.
Katt Eaton