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Dear All,

The journal of which I am Technical Editor has the following rules about 
citing papers with multiple authors:

(1) For one author use the form "Green (1999)".

(2) For two authors use the form "Black & Tan (1993)"

(3) For three authors, use all names "Red, White & Blue (2001)" the 
first time, and then "Red et al. (2001)" subsequently.

(4) For four or more authors, always use the form "Gray et al. (2007)".

I would like to have a bibliography style that effected these rules 
automagically.  Is this possible?  Is there a way in which I could 
modify the Journal's current bibliography style file ("anzsj.bst") to 
get it to effect these rules?

I have the feeling that (1), (2) and (4) should be straightforward, but 
(3) could be tricky.

I would be grateful for any hints.

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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From toms@alum.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 11:45:05 2016
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:45:05 -0500
From: Schneider <toms@alum.mit.edu>
To: Rolf Turner <r.turner@auckland.ac.nz>
Cc: texhax@tug.org
Subject: Re: [texhax] Complex rule for citations of papers with multiple
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Rolf:

> The journal of which I am Technical Editor has the following rules about
> citing papers with multiple authors:
> 
> (1) For one author use the form "Green (1999)".
> (2) For two authors use the form "Black & Tan (1993)"
> (3) For three authors, use all names "Red, White & Blue (2001)" the first
> time, and then "Red et al. (2001)" subsequently.
> (4) For four or more authors, always use the form "Gray et al. (2007)".

> I would like to have a bibliography style that effected these rules
> automagically.  Is this possible?  Is there a way in which I could modify
> the Journal's current bibliography style file ("anzsj.bst") to get it to
> effect these rules?
> 
> I have the feeling that (1), (2) and (4) should be straightforward, but (3)
> could be tricky.

The Journal of Molecular Biology bib style does that kind of thing:

https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/jmb.bst
That's the latest version that I've worked on,
% version = 1.37 of jmb.bst 2000 Nov 29
However, this version uses numbers in the text, you would have
to undo that setting.

In CTAN or Texlive:

https://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/biblio/bibtex/contrib/jmb?lang=en
there is an older version:
% version = 1.21 of jmb.bst 1992 June 29
This works and gives spelled out references in the text.

Just call:
\bibliographystyle{jmb}

This was derived from apalike which should be part of your Texlive package.
Just call:
\bibliographystyle{apalike}

Note that bst is a weird stack language.  It is quite programmable and
so things like this (conditional ifs) are possible.

I put this together in an example directory:

https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/threeauth/

(Note that I use links and atchange to run things from the command
line conveniently. https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/atchange.html)

BOTTOM LINE:

\bibliographystyle{jmb}

This gets most of what you want - with '&' instead of 'and' but it
doesn't do 3 authors correctly.  You would have to hack the bst code
to get that case.

Tom

  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
  toms@alum.mit.edu
  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms 

